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Q: What is a tier list?
A: It is a ranking system where characters are listed from best to worst based on how they contribute towards specific criteria. For example, we could make a tier list where characters are ranked based on the length of their name, with longer names netting you a higher ranking. Such a list might look as follows:
Cristopher
Benjamin
Allan
Roger
Denny
Brad
Chad
Eric
Bob
Since FE tier lists are usually quite large, it is common to make “tier separations” for aesthetic purposes. So our previous example could look like this:
Top tier
Cristopher
Benjamin
High tier
Allan
Roger
Denny
Low tier
Brad
Chad
Eric
Bottom tier
Bob
Usually, the criteria for a tier list will be one of the following:
a) Characters are compared based on how they contribute towards an efficient playthrough. By efficiency I am mainly referring to turn count and resource expenditure. Normally you’d expect a high tier unit to require fairly basic weapons and items while giving great returns in terms of their combat usefulness. Conversely, a lower ranked unit would probably require a lot of resources while giving less satisfactory combat returns.
B) Characters are compared based on how they contribute towards ranked runs. Note that only FE4-7 have an in-game ranking system. If we use FE7’s as an example, a unit is considered good if they make meaningful contributions to any of the tactics, survival, funds, experience or combat ranks. These set of criteria have largely been abandoned due to ranks that contradict each other (eg/ tactics and exp rank), as well as various other reasons I will not elaborate about here.
In addition, there are numerous assumptions that are universal to most FE tier lists.
-You only account for the contributions a character provides when they are playable. If a character starts off as say, an enemy before being recruited, then the actions that character takes as an enemy will not be held against his/her ranking.
-If a characters performs a function that is literally “necessary” to completing the game, said function is usually disregarded. The prime example of this would be lord characters who are forced to seize a throne to complete a map. If we actually accredited lords for said necessary contribution, they’d auto-top tier their respective list, which isn’t very interesting for comparison purposes.
-No RNG or glitch abuse of any kind. This should be pretty self-explanatory.
-The better a character is, the more likely they are to be in play in a given playthrough. This is mainly important when discussing supports.
Q: What are average stats/averages?
A: They are the statistics a character would have if they were just as likely to be RNG blessed as RNG screwed. We use average stats as the primary means of comparing 2 units statistically. Averages can be found on fea.fewiki.net, feplanet and of course here on serenes.
Q: Explain some of the common terminology used in FE tier lists and debates.
A:
-PEMN: Personal experience means nothing. This is a popular rebuttal to people who use their own personal experience alone to justify a character’s placement. The logic behind the acronym is that you cannot infer whether a character is good or bad in a game based so heavily on random chance because you could’ve simply ended up with a heavily RNG blessed or screwed character.
-DA / Doubling: Double attacking.
-AS: Attack speed.
-Avo: Avoid.
-Cev/ddg: Crit evade/dodge.
-RNG: Random number generator. If you didn’t already know, many aspects of the game such as level-ups and hit rates are based on random chance. If a character has say, a 50% strength growth and the RNG produces a value of 46, then that character will get a strength-up. If the random number produced is 78, then no strength-up will occur.
-RNs: Random numbers.
-RNG Screwed: When a character has stats below those of his or her simple average at any given level.
-RNG Blessed: When a character has stats above those of his or her simple average at any given level.
Sandbagging: Purposely misusing or sabotaging a character in a comparison with another. For example, denying a character an inexpensive buyable weapon would be obvious sandbagging since every character has an inherent claim to weapons.
Favoritism/Babying: Providing a unit with excessive preferential treatment. For instance, letting your worst unit solo a chapter would be blatant favoritism since it is not only inefficient but deprives your entire army of combat exp they could’ve used for statistic improvement.
Inflated level: Assuming a unit is at a higher level at any point in the game than the unit should reasonably be. Deciding what a resonable level is depends on the assumed team size as well as a few other factors, so it’s a tricky subject. Usually you’ll see debaters say things like “assuming a 10 man team, 1.4 levels per chapter sounds pretty reasonable”. It usually helps to substantiate these claims using exp formulas which can be found in the site’s calculation section for a specific game.
Feeding kills: Having one or possibly even several units weaken an enemy to low hp for another unit to finish off. The unit who’s dealing the finishing blow is the one metaphorically being spoonfed. This is considered a form of favoritism.
-NPC: Non-playable character. A character that cannot be controlled.
-Crit: Critical hit percentage.
-Critting: Landing a critical hit.
Mt: Weapon might.
Effective Mt: Tricky to explain so I’ll just jump to an example. If a hammer has 13 Mt, it has 26-39 effective Mt against armors/generals, depending on the game.
Atk: Attack power.
Wt: Weapon weight.
Weighed down: Refers to attack speed loss incurred by equipping a specific weapon.
-#HKO: Number hit KO. If I say Jeremy is 3HKOed by a steel axe!warrior, I mean Jeremy will die if a warrior using a steel axe hits him 3 consecutive times.
-#RKO: Number round KO. Similar idea to #HKO, except this time it refers to the number of rounds of combat a unit can face before dying.
If you do not see the distinction between #HKO and #RKO, consider the following example: Sam is 6HKOed by iron sword!myrmidons. However, these myrmidons can double her, so she’s 3RKOed.
-Real/true hit and display hit: Read here.
-Proc%: Procurage percentage. This refers to the chances of a character activating any number of skills at least once in a round of combat.
Let’s say Brennan has a 7% chance of critting a red dragon, and that he doubles said dragon. His odds of not critting the dragon at all are 0.93 x 0.93 x 100 = 86.49%. Thus his proc% is the complement of that, which is 13.51%.
Availability: The amount of chapters of playtime a specific unit has.
Durability: A unit’s ability to withstand enemy attacks. Thus, when looking at a unit’s durability, we examine the effectiveness of their hp, def, res and avo in regards to how well it allows them to survive enemy encounters.
Concrete durability: A unit’s ability to withstand enemy hits. Essentially, concrete durability is the same thing as regular durability except that we ignore avo.
Tank: Refers to a unit with impressive durability. As the analogy suggests, a tank is a sturdy unit that is difficult to take down.
Canto: The ability to re-move after certain actions.
WTA/WTD: Weapon triangle advantage / disadvantage.
WTN: Weapon triangle neutrality (eg/ fire tomes vs swords).
PC: Playable character.
Positive/negative utility: A commonly used term when assessing a unit’s worth to some hypothetical team in play. A unit offers positive utility if their contribution is good enough that they are worth fielding. Conversely, a unit offers negative utility if you were better off not using that unit to begin with. How we weigh positive/negative utility is a rather controversial issue in tier debates.
Resources: A term used to summarize (usually limited) things that can be consumed by player characters to improve their performance. For example a unit slot so they can be used in a chapter, or an amount of combat or bonus EXP, certain weapons, etc.
CEXP: Combat experience. The experience you gain from engaging in combat with enemies in a given chapter.
BEXP: Bonus experience.
SEXP: Staff experience.
Atk/kill exp: Attack/kill experience.
Q: I found some terminology I can’t follow that this guide doesn’t cover either.
A: Try checking here. Otherwise, just ask someone on the forum and they’ll likely help you out.
Q: Are there any FE debating guides out there to help me out?
A: Yes.
Q: What is a tier list?
A: It is a ranking system where characters are listed from best to worst based on how they contribute towards specific criteria. For example, we could make a tier list where characters are ranked based on the length of their name, with longer names netting you a higher ranking. Such a list might look as follows:
Cristopher
Benjamin
Allan
Roger
Denny
Brad
Chad
Eric
Bob
Since FE tier lists are usually quite large, it is common to make “tier separations” for aesthetic purposes. So our previous example could look like this:
Top tier
Cristopher
Benjamin
High tier
Allan
Roger
Denny
Low tier
Brad
Chad
Eric
Bottom tier
Bob
Usually, the criteria for a tier list will be one of the following:
a) Characters are compared based on how they contribute towards an efficient playthrough. By efficiency I am mainly referring to turn count and resource expenditure. Normally you’d expect a high tier unit to require fairly basic weapons and items while giving great returns in terms of their combat usefulness. Conversely, a lower ranked unit would probably require a lot of resources while giving less satisfactory combat returns.
B) Characters are compared based on how they contribute towards ranked runs. Note that only FE4-7 have an in-game ranking system. If we use FE7’s as an example, a unit is considered good if they make meaningful contributions to any of the tactics, survival, funds, experience or combat ranks. These set of criteria have largely been abandoned due to ranks that contradict each other (eg/ tactics and exp rank), as well as various other reasons I will not elaborate about here.
In addition, there are numerous assumptions that are universal to most FE tier lists.
-You only account for the contributions a character provides when they are playable. If a character starts off as say, an enemy before being recruited, then the actions that character takes as an enemy will not be held against his/her ranking.
-If a characters performs a function that is literally “necessary” to completing the game, said function is usually disregarded. The prime example of this would be lord characters who are forced to seize a throne to complete a map. If we actually accredited lords for said necessary contribution, they’d auto-top tier their respective list, which isn’t very interesting for comparison purposes.
-No RNG or glitch abuse of any kind. This should be pretty self-explanatory.
-The better a character is, the more likely they are to be in play in a given playthrough. This is mainly important when discussing supports.
Q: What are average stats/averages?
A: They are the statistics a character would have if they were just as likely to be RNG blessed as RNG screwed. We use average stats as the primary means of comparing 2 units statistically. Averages can be found on fea.fewiki.net, feplanet and of course here on serenes.
Q: Explain some of the common terminology used in FE tier lists and debates.
A:
-PEMN: Personal experience means nothing. This is a popular rebuttal to people who use their own personal experience alone to justify a character’s placement. The logic behind the acronym is that you cannot infer whether a character is good or bad in a game based so heavily on random chance because you could’ve simply ended up with a heavily RNG blessed or screwed character.
-DA / Doubling: Double attacking.
-AS: Attack speed.
-Avo: Avoid.
-Cev/ddg: Crit evade/dodge.
-RNG: Random number generator. If you didn’t already know, many aspects of the game such as level-ups and hit rates are based on random chance. If a character has say, a 50% strength growth and the RNG produces a value of 46, then that character will get a strength-up. If the random number produced is 78, then no strength-up will occur.
-RNs: Random numbers.
-RNG Screwed: When a character has stats below those of his or her simple average at any given level.
-RNG Blessed: When a character has stats above those of his or her simple average at any given level.
Sandbagging: Purposely misusing or sabotaging a character in a comparison with another. For example, denying a character an inexpensive buyable weapon would be obvious sandbagging since every character has an inherent claim to weapons.
Favoritism/Babying: Providing a unit with excessive preferential treatment. For instance, letting your worst unit solo a chapter would be blatant favoritism since it is not only inefficient but deprives your entire army of combat exp they could’ve used for statistic improvement.
Inflated level: Assuming a unit is at a higher level at any point in the game than the unit should reasonably be. Deciding what a resonable level is depends on the assumed team size as well as a few other factors, so it’s a tricky subject. Usually you’ll see debaters say things like “assuming a 10 man team, 1.4 levels per chapter sounds pretty reasonable”. It usually helps to substantiate these claims using exp formulas which can be found in the site’s calculation section for a specific game.
Feeding kills: Having one or possibly even several units weaken an enemy to low hp for another unit to finish off. The unit who’s dealing the finishing blow is the one metaphorically being spoonfed. This is considered a form of favoritism.
-NPC: Non-playable character. A character that cannot be controlled.
-Crit: Critical hit percentage.
-Critting: Landing a critical hit.
Mt: Weapon might.
Effective Mt: Tricky to explain so I’ll just jump to an example. If a hammer has 13 Mt, it has 26-39 effective Mt against armors/generals, depending on the game.
Atk: Attack power.
Wt: Weapon weight.
Weighed down: Refers to attack speed loss incurred by equipping a specific weapon.
-#HKO: Number hit KO. If I say Jeremy is 3HKOed by a steel axe!warrior, I mean Jeremy will die if a warrior using a steel axe hits him 3 consecutive times.
-#RKO: Number round KO. Similar idea to #HKO, except this time it refers to the number of rounds of combat a unit can face before dying.
If you do not see the distinction between #HKO and #RKO, consider the following example: Sam is 6HKOed by iron sword!myrmidons. However, these myrmidons can double her, so she’s 3RKOed.
-Real/true hit and display hit: Read here.
-Proc%: Procurage percentage. This refers to the chances of a character activating any number of skills at least once in a round of combat.
Let’s say Brennan has a 7% chance of critting a red dragon, and that he doubles said dragon. His odds of not critting the dragon at all are 0.93 x 0.93 x 100 = 86.49%. Thus his proc% is the complement of that, which is 13.51%.
Availability: The amount of chapters of playtime a specific unit has.
Durability: A unit’s ability to withstand enemy attacks. Thus, when looking at a unit’s durability, we examine the effectiveness of their hp, def, res and avo in regards to how well it allows them to survive enemy encounters.
Concrete durability: A unit’s ability to withstand enemy hits. Essentially, concrete durability is the same thing as regular durability except that we ignore avo.
Tank: Refers to a unit with impressive durability. As the analogy suggests, a tank is a sturdy unit that is difficult to take down.
Canto: The ability to re-move after certain actions.
WTA/WTD: Weapon triangle advantage / disadvantage.
WTN: Weapon triangle neutrality (eg/ fire tomes vs swords).
PC: Playable character.
Positive/negative utility: A commonly used term when assessing a unit’s worth to some hypothetical team in play. A unit offers positive utility if their contribution is good enough that they are worth fielding. Conversely, a unit offers negative utility if you were better off not using that unit to begin with. How we weigh positive/negative utility is a rather controversial issue in tier debates.
Resources: A term used to summarize (usually limited) things that can be consumed by player characters to improve their performance. For example a unit slot so they can be used in a chapter, or an amount of combat or bonus EXP, certain weapons, etc.
CEXP: Combat experience. The experience you gain from engaging in combat with enemies in a given chapter.
BEXP: Bonus experience.
SEXP: Staff experience.
Atk/kill exp: Attack/kill experience.
Q: I found some terminology I can’t follow that this guide doesn’t cover either.
A: Try checking here. Otherwise, just ask someone on the forum and they’ll likely help you out.
Q: Are there any FE debating guides out there to help me out?
A: Yes.
