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1 Igrene > Lilina on Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:39 am

Lilina lv 15/0: 22 hp/16 mag/8 skl/9 spd/11 lck/3 def/12 res

Igrene lv --/1: 32 hp/16 str/18 skl/15 spd/9 lck/11 def/10 res

Offensively, Lilina probably does more damage hit per hit, but Igrene also doubles a lot more. Though even if you call that a tie, you then have to consider 10 hp/8 def/10 avo as a huge durability lead for Igrene.

Lilina will eventually get staves, but also costs 10k in a C16 guiding ring. Not sure there's much else to say. Even if Lilina levels faster, her durability growths are garbage, and she will never surpass Igrene in AS. Supports only help Lilina hit harder since she has the light affinity, whereas Igrene's ice simply increases her durability lead.

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2 Re: Igrene > Lilina on Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:30 am

*BBlade thinks this is a fair argument

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3 Re: Igrene > Lilina on Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:14 am

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4 Re: Igrene > Lilina on Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:44 pm

About time someone found a good place to finally put her. Igrene's been in stasis forever, despite everyone wanting to move her up.

But yes, indeed. Approved.

EDIT: Whoops, seems she rose to lower mid a long while ago.

Well, while we're at it, what about Ray?

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5 Re: Igrene > Lilina on Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:56 pm

Maybe Level 18?

18 Ray - 26.3 HP | 14.7 Mag | 12.3 Skl | 11.4 Spd | 6.9 Luck | 5.9 Def | 12.1 Res

Igrene - 32 HP | 16 Mag | 18 Skl | 15 Spd | 9 Luck | 11 Def | 10 Res

Seems to me that Igrene wins since Ray loses 1 AS with Flux. After promo...

20/1 Ray - 30.4 HP | 19.6 Mag | 15.4 Skl | 14.2 Spd | 7.2 Luck | 8.2 Def | 14.8 Res

3 Igrene - 33.4 HP | 16.7 Str | 18.5 Skl | 15.7 Spd | 9.4 Luck | 11.2 Def | 10.1 Res

Not so much of a blowout anymore. Also consider Ray's wtf20Mag + 8 Mt Flux is hitting pretty hard in one shot since enemy Res is near non-existant. Ray loses 3 HP, 2 Def, 6 Avo but hits much harder. They're probably doubling about the same things or not doubling the same things. But consider the Guiding Ring cost and such, and Igrene probably wins this one too.

EDIT: Though, consider that he can use Nosferatu pretty well. Only 1 AS loss but he's going to hit like a truck anyway.

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6 Re: Igrene > Lilina on Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:00 pm

I suppose the only thing mitigating this is if Ray gets a B with Lou (I still don't know what people are doing, giving Chad that slot). Even then, he's still losing 3 HP and 1 Def, only winning avoid by 4.

So yeah, I could see her over Ray too.

At least in Sacae anyways.

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7 Re: Igrene > Lilina on Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:06 pm

Grandjackal wrote:So yeah, I could see her over Ray too.

At least in Sacae anyways.
Ray gets doubled depending on what he has equipped and Nosferatu isn't as reliable when enemies have higher avo. I think Ray can still stay above Igrene on the Ilia list though.

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8 Re: Igrene > Lilina on Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:18 pm

Flux is probably his only weapon that he's equipping, with Nosferatu being situational. If B Lugh is possible he gets +1 Atk, +1 Def, +10 Avoid, +10 Accuracy. Anyway, lesse... Nosferatu has 70 base Hit + 10 from supports + 33 from Skl + Luck/2 = 113. 67 displayed, so yeah too much of a gamble IMO considering, if he is doubled, he takes 18 damage per round.

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9 Re: Igrene > Lilina on Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:19 pm

dondon151 wrote:
Grandjackal wrote:So yeah, I could see her over Ray too.

At least in Sacae anyways.
Ray gets doubled depending on what he has equipped and Nosferatu isn't as reliable when enemies have higher avo. I think Ray can still stay above Igrene on the Ilia list though.


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