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Radd > Big Mac

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1Radd > Big Mac Empty Radd > Big Mac Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:30 pm

Colonel M

Colonel M

Keep in mind guys I never hate IOS just because he denied Dolph access to Mid. Though, it does root back to that argument.

Big Mac is far worse than Dolph in the beginning. His base stats should easily explain this. So there is Radd and, though I absolutely loathe Curate -> Sniper, cannot deny that Radd does have a lot of advantages.

First off, Radd being a Curate means he draws from a second pool of EXP instead of Combat. At that point Merric is probably close to promoting and the only "other" staff users are likely Rena (who isn't promoting / care about EXP), Wendell (while I don't want to argue his utility being run out, is likely being dropped by now), and whoever else really. Shiida is nearing promo though she still has Bishop if she desperately wants the Staff rank or can just spam Magic as usual.

Secondly Radd is contributing to the team while Mac is... likely hurting the team. Hunter -> General ideally works for early characters and slight consideration of Roger / Caesar (though I argue they're better Fighter -> Heroes especially if Roger gets the possibility of the Speedwing), etc. In short: going Curate and being neutral utility is far better than going something and being... failure?

So let's look over this:

20/1 Radd: 35.8 HP | 11.1 Str | 12.8 Skl | 15.6 Spd | 8.6 Luck | 10.1 Def | 8.4 Res

10/1 Big Mac: 33.0 HP | 12.8 Str | 7.5 Skl | 10.3 Spd | 6.1 Luck | 16.6 Def | 3.0 Res

And while it's true that Mac has the better concrete durability in some areas, Radd can still take him up to the offensive spectrum once he hits Silvers.

So the deal is this: Radd has the possibility to be promoted earlier than Radd. His EXP gain is easier, and if he gets here a little earlier his benefits are better.

Before IOS jumps a gun and tries to argue Dolph down, keep in mind that Dolph is much better than Mac after promotion in the sense that Dolph has an existant Def growth, Spd growth, etc.

EDIT: I'd say mid-15 to 16 Radd is good for promotion at 20/1, around the same time Dolph is about 10/1, so Radd might have a level or two over Mac.

2Radd > Big Mac Empty Re: Radd > Big Mac Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:48 pm

Grandjackal

Grandjackal

Yes, a staff user is great and all, but how long exactly is that gonna take? He starts level 1, first off, and he joins in chapter 8. If Maric is promoting at chapter 10, and he joined at chapter 4, Raddy might have to wait till 14 for the only 3 seals about at that time. Also yeah, he might not be neutral quite yet, because most other staffies could be using Mend or some other such, healing 7 HP at this point (where silver is just on the way, do point me to someone who's taking those shots like a trooper enough that 7 HP saves their lives) is not impressive.

Here's my question, where does leveling speed enter this? Because in his joining chapter, he's gaining around 40 exp a kill for unpromotes, and nearly 80 for promotes. He does need a bit of babying, but so do plenty of others. Unlike Dolph or Mac, he has plenty more time.

Basically I'm saying that the amount of training for Raddy I feel is a bit exagerated. By the time Mac shows up, Raddy should at least be usable. Yeah his beginning damage output blows, but Ceasar's at his start is only 2 better. Yeah, Caesar's got similar leveling speed (they're only 2 levels apart), but I'm not asking for a skyrocket.

I could easily see Raddy>Mac.

3Radd > Big Mac Empty Re: Radd > Big Mac Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:51 pm

sPortsman

sPortsman

um guys I already argued this and the change was already made

Before IOS jumps a gun and tries to argue Dolph down, keep in mind that Dolph is much better than Mac after promotion in the sense that Dolph has an existant Def growth, Spd growth, etc.


Meh, an alternate solution is Radd up, considering Chainey is considering Linde in LoMid anyway.

4Radd > Big Mac Empty Re: Radd > Big Mac Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:55 pm

Colonel M

Colonel M

I didn't know. =/

If Linde goes up... I might see Radd coming too.

5Radd > Big Mac Empty Re: Radd > Big Mac Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:56 pm

sPortsman

sPortsman

Colonel you posted in my topic don't tell me you didn't know >_>

6Radd > Big Mac Empty Re: Radd > Big Mac Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:50 pm

Colonel M

Colonel M

sPortsman wrote:Colonel you posted in my topic don't tell me you didn't know >_>
To be honest I forgot.

Perhapswe should discuss Linde in here (as in FEGenesis, not SF).

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