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1 FE8 - Reversed Recruitment on Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:51 pm

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I started on this a long time ago but never quite finished it...but it's the closest I've ever done to a finished FE hack regardless.

Version 1: http://www.speedyshare.com/files/19776232/fe8e.ips

Version 2: http://www.speedyshare.com/files/19776280/RR.ips

The first one has funny text editing for like, the first two chapters, but I'm not sure if the stat changes are as up to date as in the second one. So I recommend checking out the dialogue changes in Version 1, then when they stop, restart and play Version 2.

EDIT: after testing, I determined the dialogue changes indeed stop after Ch1.

Below are all my notes I made during making this. So if you need to know anything, you should prolly look there.

Spoiler:
Code:
The idea:
This hack gives people who join very late a very good playtime, and vice versa. It also makes an attempt to balance characters, while keeping most of their use the same. In addition, the storyline will be changed to super short conversations, intended to be humorous since they will make little to no sense whatsoever.

The whole game recruitment reversed:

Eirika - Syrene
Seth - Kyle
Franz - Knoll
Gilliam - Duessel
Vanessa - Rennac
Moulder - Cormag
Ross - Ewan
Garcia - Saleh
Neimi - Dozla
Colm - L'Arachel
Artur - Marisa
Lute - Tethys
Natasha - Gerik
Joshua - Innes

Ephraim - Amelia
Forde - Tana
Kyle - Orson
Orson - Myrrh

Tana - Forde
Amelia - Ephraim

Innes - Joshua
Gerik - Natasha
Tethys - Lute
Marisa - Arthur

L'Arachel - Colm
Dozla - Neimi
Saleh - Garcia
Ewan - Ross
Cormag - Vanessa
Rennac - Moulder
Duessel - Gilliam
Knoll - Franz

Myrrh - Seth
Syrene - Eirika

Some suggested switches/changes:
1. Kyle and Orson are a bit awkward (they're still in the same chapter), and so is Myrrh's extremely early join time. Put Myrrh where Kyle is in the old game, put Kyle where Eirika is in the old game, and leave Orson what he is: a traitor, available for all of one chapter. Alternatively, make Myrrh the unit that's available for one chapter, so that Orson becomes a permanently playable member. First version will do the latter solution.

2. The prepromotes that now join very early will be quite overpowered, while the latejoining units that are unpromoted are underleveled. The obvious solution is to promote/unpromote them, and substract/add some level averages.

About this balaning thing.
Syrene - Can stay as the prepromote Jeigan thing with her usual bases.
Kyle - same
Knoll - same, but lowered to 5/0
Duessel - gets unpromoted, given his 13/0 averages, but joins at 5/0
Rennac - Can stay promoted, with crap bases, but great growths, a la Sedgar/Wolf but less so.
Cormag - gets leveled back to 3/0
Ewan - same.
Saleh - is now a Mage with somewhat random stats, may be changed later
Dozla - same. Fwahahaha!
L'Arachel - Stays the same.
Marisa - same.
Tethys - same.
Gerik - put down to 4/0
Innes - Stays the same. He's already got to deal with being a Sniper.
Amelia - same.
Tana - same.
Myrrh - same.
Orson - same.
Forde - should be put at about 7/0
Ephraim - should be put at about 7/0
Joshua - 13/0
Natasha - 16/0
Lute - 9/0 Mage
Arthur - 9/0 Monk
Colm - 20/1 Assassin
Neimi - 18/1 Ranger
Garcia - 15/1 Warrior
Ross - 10/8/0 Pirate
Moulder - 15/1 Bishop
Vanessa - 15/1 Wyvern Knight
Gilliam - 15/1 General
Franz - 17/1 Great Knight
Seth - 1/0 Cavalier (the Est/Nino of this game)**
Eirika - 20/5 Great Lord

* Duessel gets leveled back to 13/0
at 20/8 - 41/17/12/12/17/09/08
growths - 85 55 40 30 45 30 20
times 7 - 06 04 03 02 03 02 02
at 20/1 - 35/13/09/10/14/07/06
depromo - 03/02/01/02/02/01/00
at 20/0 - 32/11/08/08/12/06/06
at 13/0 - 26/07/05/06/09/04/04 <----
socbase - 20/05/02/05/06/00/00, 9 con, Duessel gets 11, so +2
baseadd - 06/02/03/01/03/04/04, 2 con

* Gerik gets leveled back to 4/0
at 10/0 - 32/14/13/13/10/04/08
growths - 90/45/40/30/35/25/30
times 6 - 03/03/02/02/02/02/02
at 04/0 - 29/11/11/11/08/02/06
merbase - 18/04/08/08/04/00/00, 9 con, Gerik gets 13, so +4
baseadd - 11/07/03/03/04/02/06, 4 con

* Cormag gets leveled back to 3/0
at 09/0 - 30/14/09/10/12/02/04, 10 con
growths - 85/55/40/45/25/15/35
times 6 - 05/03/02/03/02/01/02
at 03/0 - 25/11/07/07/10/01/02, 10 con
wyvbase - 20/07/03/05/08/00/00, 10 con
baseadd - 05/04/04/02/02/01/02, 0 con

* Joshua calcs
at 13/0 - 30/11/17/18/07/04/09, 9 con
swordfi - 16/04/09/09/02/00/00, 8 con
baseadd - 14/07/08/09/05/04/09, 1 con

* Natasha calcs
at 15/0 - 25/10/08/14/04/14/14, 4 con
classba - 16/01/02/02/00/06/00, 4 con
baseadd - 09/09/06/12/04/08/14, 0 con

* Lute calcs
at 09/0 - 20/11/08/10/04/08/12, 3 con
classba - 16/01/03/02/02/04/00, 3 con
baseadd - 04/10/05/08/02/04/12, 0 con

* Arthur calcs
at 08/0 - 22/09/09/12/03/09/04, 6 con
classba - 18/01/01/02/01/05/00, 6 con
baseadd - 04/08/08/10/02/04/04, 0 con

* Garcia calcs
at 15/0 - 37/15/11/09/08/04/07, 13 con
at 15/1 - 40/16/13/11/11/07/07, 15 con
classba - 28/08/05/06/05/00/00, 13 con
baseadd - 12/08/08/05/06/07/07, 2 con

* Neimi calcs
at 18/0 - 26/12/13/16/06/08/13, 6 con
at 18/1 - 28/14/15/17/09/11/13, 9 con
classba - 21/06/06/07/05/04/00, 8 con
baseadd - 07/08/09/10/04/07/13, 1 con

* Colm calcs
at 20/1 - 34/12/11/20/09/07/16, 8 con
classba - 16/03/01/09/02/00/00, 8 con
baseadd - 18/09/10/11/07/07/16, 0 con

** Seth will get stats he would have if he were 20/0, but with a really low base level:
20/1 - 30/14/13/12/11/8/13
20/0 - 28/13/12/11/09/7/13
Put him at 1/0.

Steps to create a succesful character replacing:
1. Chapter Unit Editor
1.1 Starting Class
1.2 Starting level/alliance
1.3 Starting inventory
2. Character Editor (the new one)
2.1 Name value - 0x222
2.2 Desc value - 0x7E
2.3 Class (support viewer)
2.4 Portrait
2.5 Affinity
2.6 Base stat additions -
2.7 Weapon levels
2.8 Growth rates -
2.9 Character abilities
2.10 Supports data

Misc things changed:
- Light Sword is now D-rank rather than C, and is now a Weapon instead of a Magic Weapon
- Troubadours now have 7 move rather than 6
- Orson has Myrrh's support list

Known stupid things:
- Marisa fighting the monster in Ch4 cutscene

Codebreaker codes:
- Turn status slot 1 infinite:
3202BE58 0000
- Slot 1 Spear
3202BE6A 001D
3202BE6B 001F
- Slot 3 Door Key
3202BE6E 006A
3202BE6F 0001
- A lances
3202BE75 00B5
- stats
3202BE5E 00##          Max HP
3202BE5F 00##          Current HP
3202BE60 00##          Strength
3202BE61 00##          Skill
3202BE62 00##          Speed
3202BE63 00##          Defence
3202BE64 00##          Resistance
3202BE65 00##          Luck
3202BE66 00##          Constitution Bonus
3202BE69 00##          Move Bonus

weapon levels:

3202BE74 00##          Sword Level
3202BE75 00##          Lance Level
3202BE76 00##          Axe Level

Values:FB=S Rank
      B5=A Rank
      79=B Rank
      47=C Rank
      1F=D Rank

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2 Re: FE8 - Reversed Recruitment on Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:55 pm

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Video of all the dialogue so you won't have to bother with the stupid version of the patch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdPDdskbFgY

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3 Re: FE8 - Reversed Recruitment on Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:32 pm

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Things I'm changing:
- Steel Sword fixing # uses
- Nerfed Saleh's base spd by 4 and def by 1
- Ephraim's starting level (Eir route) fixed (it was 1, now it's 10)
- Flux buyable in Ch5 Shop

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/19795702/Reversed_Recruitment.ips

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4 Re: FE8 - Reversed Recruitment on Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:03 pm

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also people have too much con and Amelia and Ewan cannot promote yet

post any other problems itt

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5 Re: FE8 - Reversed Recruitment on Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:53 pm

Bugs:

Ewan can't promote past Pupil
Amelia can level past 10 as a Recruit
Amelia and Kyle can promote in the event, which isn't a big deal I guess
Knoll can't Summon (presumably Ewan as well)
The following characters have the wrong Con:

Cormag
L'Arachel
Saleh
Vanessa
Colm
Rennac
Josh
Lute
Ross

Possibly Artur as well

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6 Re: FE8 - Reversed Recruitment on Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:05 pm

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promotions of Ewan and Amelia fixed

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/19930428/Reversed_Recruitment.ips

how much should their con change by?

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